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EVENT ARCHIVE / 03-18-2021_ga_sc_nc_va
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 10:18 AM
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 10:21 AM
Thanks Glen!
@Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) you going to be chasing Thursday? I may be down in south central NC
Got a feeling that Thursday could be huge as well
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 10:23 AM
Yes I might be to on Thursday? Might be a day not stay in one place. (edited)
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 10:24 AM
Yeah...I think Thursday has a decent shot of going MDT
tbh
Looking a lot like MS/AL; big open warm sector, with good shear and that open warm sector will allow thermos too keep on building
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 10:25 AM
I could skip Wednesday for Thursday?
Shear is high here.
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James T. (NW OH) 16-Mar-21 10:25 AM
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 10:25 AM
yeah i just got up.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 10:25 AM
Also one thing I’ve been liking about NC
Is how much your winds are backed in a broader area along Central NC
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 10:55 AM
OH, KY Triple Point setup?!?
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 11:44 AM
Sounding in Southern OH near the low
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 11:56 AM
"Storms should increase through midday west of the mountains across parts of eastern Kentucky/eastern Tennessee ahead of the synoptic system. Relatively low-topped storms -- and local risk for all-hazards severe weather -- will likely evolve."
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B. Dean Berry (Pittsburgh PA) ✱ 16-Mar-21 01:22 PM
Man, if this was on a weekend, instead of a single day off, I'd go.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 02:02 PM
Honestly we could add KY/OH/TN into the mix
That 5% extends into southern Ohio and KY
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 02:22 PM
@Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC)
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 02:24 PM
ping @Norman Smith (Racine, OH)
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 02:25 PM
Oh I was seeing if you could add a few more states in the title
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 02:27 PM
Let's see if they enlarge it. Next update coming soon. I'd hate to do it and only to see it go smaller.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 06:22 PM
That's quite the look from the HRRR for Thursday's setup in NC/VA. 18z HRRR valid for 18z Thurs. Discreet convection firing in an environment with 500-800 0-3 SRH and ~1200 SBCAPE. 100m LCLs and ~200 0-3 CAPE as a kicker. 😛 #vawx #ncwx
I swear NC is getting hella slept on
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 16-Mar-21 07:58 PM
Save some for SC
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 08:47 PM
I’m going to be both putting this in this channel and 3-17. But; I just want to say this and only this; tomorrow and Thursday have the potential to be one of the most severe sequent tornado outbreak we’ve seen in a while. AL, MS, TN, East AR. Got to keep in mind, eastern MS & AL is all going to be after sunset. So on top of the terrain, you got HP Supercells moving 50-60 MPH at NIGHT. I’m kinda glad I didn’t go down considering that the main threat is shifting towards the night hours. Then also people aren’t talking about Thursday a lot, because obviously Wednesday is overshadowing it. BUT NC, SC, and GA is just under the gun as much as AL, MS, TN is. Thursday also will be accompanied by fast moving supercells moving through populated areas. Also with the 0-1, & 0-3km SRH we have and the thermos that the NC region is going to reach THAT TOO will also be favorable for strong/long-track tornadoes (wouldn’t even rule out a violent tornado either), which why I’m saying the parameters look as good or almost good as tomorrow that I wouldn’t be surprised to see a B2B Moderate. Point is, both very VERY big days ahead for the South and both days IMO have the same severity levels. Chasers that are going down to these areas the next 2 days....(including myself) please...PLEASE be careful...the next two days are as serious as it gets. The LAST thing I want too see is someone from the chaser community or even in ST to be hurt or killed during the next dangerous 2 days....please make smart decisions but also enjoy yourself. Not only am I worried about y’all but I’m at the point that I’m worried about myself. I care about y’all and you guys are like my online family! Y’all taught me a lot and I can’t thank you enough. (edited)
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 09:39 PM
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 11:01 PM
Calling this now...
Day 2 Moderate.
I said it. (edited)
Within a span of 12 hours we went from 1100 j/kg of CAPE too 2500 j/kg
Thursday is literally doing what Wednesday did at it’s day 3-2 stage
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 11:15 PM
HRRR WILDIN ON THE VA/NC BORDER
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 16-Mar-21 11:37 PM
I'd hit it.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 16-Mar-21 11:55 PM
sound the alarms
East 5
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 17-Mar-21 02:12 AM
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:24 AM
Gonna be interesting day here tomorrow
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 08:25 AM
Yes Indeed (edited)
I will be leaving for Raleigh around 7-8
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:26 AM
I want to say this is the first high mod risk in almost 10 years (edited)
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 08:28 AM
I can definitely see this go high risk...
Mostly because of how fast it’s trending like what today did at Day 2-3
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:30 AM
Ugh I am stuck here tomorrow lol
Storms should be rolling in around night time here on the coast
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 08:31 AM
Yeah
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 08:31 AM
You could definitely see something too
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 08:31 AM
I’ll be in SC.
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:31 AM
GLENNN
Hope all is well
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 08:32 AM
Ya hanging in there
Hope you’re doing good nick.?
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:33 AM
Yes sir doing great
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 08:33 AM
Good to hear.
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 17-Mar-21 08:35 AM
What area are you looking at tomorrow?
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 09:06 AM
This event reminds me a lot of 4/16/11
Line of discrete supercells over central NC with a threat of strong to violent tornadoes
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 09:13 AM
I’ll be localish. Target area right now is due South of me to I20.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 09:52 AM
Yowza
Raleigh
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Mar-21 10:00 AM
LRs good. LcL 500-600. Shear 300-400. Bunkers Right and Left. 42-52knts. Mostly everything is good on that.
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Jacob Punch (Kansas City) 17-Mar-21 11:11 AM
Nah it busted
hahaha
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 11:12 AM
Going to leave around 7 am
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B. Dean Berry (Pittsburgh PA) ✱ 17-Mar-21 11:20 AM
You might need to leave earlier
That GPS projected arrival time is a lie.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 01:50 PM
SPC using very strong wording for tomorrow
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Michael Levine (Hanover, MD) 17-Mar-21 08:02 PM
I’m coming from Baltimore haha. How far do I need to go and what time frame? I was thinking of just driving down 95 tomorrow morning into central NC, trying to get down there by the early afternoon
The other option is leave tonight and sleep in the car somewhere further west so that I can chase the early stuff as well
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 08:06 PM
I’m really pumped
Going to be roughly the same volatile atmosphere as what southern AL and MS had
Wouldn’t be to shocked if we see a High Risk either along the WF/WS in Greensboro through Raleigh
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Michael Levine (Hanover, MD) 17-Mar-21 08:35 PM
Where exactly is the warm front supposed to set up?
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 08:36 PM
I think In southern VA iirc
I’m just going to play the northern WS near the WF
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 09:39 PM
Ummmm now I’m debating that vortmax
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Shane Adams (Fort Worth, TX) 17-Mar-21 09:49 PM
I see nothing along the OH/VA border. IMO the only play is the Carolinas, and even that is messy how I see it.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 10:43 PM
Working to stay ahead of this squall like on my way to the Carolina Piedmont for the moderate risk tomorrow @RadarOmega_WX
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 17-Mar-21 10:52 PM
Target area for tomrorow
Tomorrow*
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James T. (NW OH) 17-Mar-21 11:59 PM
Was thinking the same thing
If you want any kind of tornado it’ll be down there
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:00 AM
Idk
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Shane Adams (Fort Worth, TX) 18-Mar-21 12:13 AM
Congrats on your first tornado James.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:14 AM
Things are in place at the triple point....
NAM NEST and HRRR for the past several runs is downgrading the CAPE in NC
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B. Dean Berry (Pittsburgh PA) ✱ 18-Mar-21 12:20 AM
Truly, bro. Congrats! Definitely a big day.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 18-Mar-21 12:34 AM
@James T. (NW OH) What tornado did you get? I'm sorry I am late to the discussion.
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James T. (NW OH) 18-Mar-21 12:34 AM
Well we got it done down in Dixie from Livingston, Eutaw, and Stewart, AL! 3 separate tornadoes today ranging from wedge, rope and stovepipe! My first tornadoes and hopefully many more to come. #alwx
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Thanks btw you guys. Really appreciate it.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 18-Mar-21 12:46 AM
There ya go. The right channel
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:47 AM
NC/SC actually seems like it's going to overperform rather than underperform. Lots of shear in that area, anything that remains discrete could be very strong
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Jacob Prothro (Central Texas) 18-Mar-21 12:48 AM
Think they stay mod?
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:48 AM
yes. storm mode is an uncertainty still
Then again, I thought they would stick with mod last night so what do I know
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Jacob Prothro (Central Texas) 18-Mar-21 12:48 AM
I can’t see them going high after today’s underperformance (edited)
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:48 AM
meh, it wasn't a bust really
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Jacob Prothro (Central Texas) 18-Mar-21 12:49 AM
Yeah I used the wrong word
Hit edit immediately lol
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:49 AM
wasn't a 45% verification but there were definitely sups and solid tors
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:49 AM
But short range looks ass
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:49 AM
i mean while in the other channel i defended the HRRR, remember that it needs to be used with interpretation
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:49 AM
Hardly any good cape (1500 max) and now HRRR won’t convect or NAM 3k
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:50 AM
if the ingredients are there, try to figure out why the model is spitting out what it does and if the output is reasonable or not
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 18-Mar-21 12:52 AM
Commit to NC for the chase. I would favor a little south to start incase it fires early again
Not sure how storm mode will go over time, NC likes to go upscale with embedded fast
Gonna be a messy chase but tors are tors
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:53 AM
@Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) thoughts on the triple point?
In OH
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:54 AM
I haven't looked at OH enough yet. Just remember that the CAMs aren't meant to be taken literally, rather interpretation. Look for ingredients, CAMs, and everything else together to figure out where you want to go.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 12:55 AM
Well look into oh and give it some thought...
I’m curious on what you’ll say
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Sam Soud (Jacksonville, FL) 18-Mar-21 12:55 AM
I'm about to sleep or I'd look it over myself and see what I think, but as is I think NC is a very good setup atm...whether it's QLCS or supercell
I would but I gotta wake up at 7 am again 😭
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Michael Levine (Hanover, MD) 18-Mar-21 02:38 AM
Lol that’s exactly where I’m at haha. I made it to Burlington. Now time to sleep
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 07:35 AM
Triple point magic in Ohio be there.
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Michael Levine (Hanover, MD) 18-Mar-21 10:43 AM
Currently smack dab in the middle of the MOD at Elizabethtown, NC
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 18-Mar-21 10:57 AM
Heading out towards Whiteville NC this afternoon
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 18-Mar-21 11:27 AM
Clouds are starting to clear out earlier than expected, looks like we will have around an extra hour two of destabilization. Southern Ohio could see some tubes today #ohwx
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Michael Levine (Hanover, MD) 18-Mar-21 12:55 PM
Moderate risk dropped :/
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 18-Mar-21 12:55 PM
Yup
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 18-Mar-21 01:08 PM
Still a 10% sig tornado.
this 3
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Nick (Wilmington, NC) 18-Mar-21 01:10 PM
Yeah I am going to hold off on chasing and see what happens here
Save some money on gas lol
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 18-Mar-21 01:33 PM
Im out.
Heading to Greenwood
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 18-Mar-21 03:42 PM
surface low detached from the upper low. no longer stacked. surface is all the way up in WV now. upper still over western KY
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 18-Mar-21 08:37 PM
Near Winnisburg, SC.
As good as it gets in Dixie.
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Jacob Punch (Kansas City) 18-Mar-21 09:39 PM
Ocean wedge
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 19-Mar-21 01:20 PM
lol it never produce. Just the wall cloud.
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