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EVENT ARCHIVE / 07-09-2021_ia_il_ks_mo_ne
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 12:33 PM
I'll take my 5% and chase it
Nam convects just west of Omaha by 4pm
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 12:48 PM
Classic NW flow setup @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) , you gonna be free?
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 06-Jul-21 01:11 PM
I'm free, can you pick me up?
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 01:25 PM
What, they don't ha e a direct from SC to KC?
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 06-Jul-21 01:27 PM
lol
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 01:33 PM
When I fly to visit fam in NC/SC I always go KC direct to Raleigh.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 01:46 PM
Oh Jesus. Reed said it. "Best setup of the year for Nebraska/ia" for Friday
Hype train has arrived
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 06-Jul-21 01:50 PM
Perfect. Now it can bust.
NAM didn’t look too great. Didn’t look bad.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 06-Jul-21 03:00 PM
We will see. May have to just call in sick.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 03:01 PM
If ur busy ur busy.
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Jeff House (Chattanooga, TN) 06-Jul-21 03:30 PM
Friday is a chase day. Wake up and see where the boundaries are. Definitely a local chase day. Could be worth some travel. Esp if Sat is not too far from Fri and Sun is not too far from Sat. Sure there’s insta-line or insta-blob risk; however, in July one chases Friday. (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 06-Jul-21 03:32 PM
Is it me, or does it look like the storms are going to be HP?
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 04:28 PM
Pwets are high. Expect small window before HP shitstorm
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 06-Jul-21 04:28 PM
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Pwets are high. Expect small window before HP shitstorm
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 06-Jul-21 04:55 PM
Chasing flash floods
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 05:09 PM
In Nebraska, flash flood chases you.
I once was chasing and got 6" of rain in 30 mins. Proceeded to float my car down the road like a dumbass.
Some nice guys at the local Pakistani car dealership helped pull me out. Took about 3 hours to dry the exhaust to start
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B. Dean Berry (Pittsburgh PA) ✱ 06-Jul-21 05:12 PM
~ s n o r k e l ~
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 05:16 PM
The old two risks day
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 06-Jul-21 05:25 PM
Just because I can’t get enough of wasting my gas on this irritating hobby, I’m considering going.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 06-Jul-21 05:32 PM
Don't worry, I'm considering it, mainly because it's July. and there's not going to be storms to chase until September/October
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 06-Jul-21 05:47 PM
The thing is, I’m a teacher and am wanting to get more acquainted with summer setups up north, since I have June and July off
April and May are always an East of I35 chase for me unless it’s a weekend
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 06-Jul-21 06:25 PM
I’ll try my best to switch shifts.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 06-Jul-21 07:25 PM
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 06-Jul-21 08:35 PM
Hmm, I'm right in the middle of that. Too early yet to make any position bets
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Hmm, I'm right in the middle of that. Too early yet to make any position bets
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 06-Jul-21 10:24 PM
Wait you are chasing this? When did you drive all the way up here to Nebraska?
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 06-Jul-21 10:25 PM
Actually, I'm in central Iowa this week. Hoping for some good weather
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 12:02 AM
Yeaaaaah 0z nam says we definitely chase.
Contammed, yea, but still.
GFS says you definitely chase too.
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) are you seeing the new model runs yet?
Shear vectors in the WS along with high Theta-E and PW values tell me our window of opportunity will be very short before it goes upscale, however it looks like the short time we have couple potentially be a great time. I’d like the LFCs to lower a bit though.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 12:42 AM
Eyeing a potential #chaseday in #newx and #iawx on Friday. The potential event has been trending for some time now, and cams are starting to really like a #tornado threat before quickly going linear in the evening. 00z NAM and GFS, as depicted below, agree in… (1/ ) #wxtwitter
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 10:03 AM
Maxed EHI values says we chase
Max PDS tor says we chase
20 STP with an omega that is below toxic levels? Sign me up
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20 STP with an omega that is below toxic levels? Sign me up
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 10:10 AM
Man, this thing is moving farther north
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 10:11 AM
I would play just N or NW of Omaha. Near say....pilger.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 10:11 AM
Pilger you say
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 10:12 AM
It's a good area to chase I hear...
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 10:12 AM
Nothing good happens in Pilger
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 10:12 AM
I mean look at the forecast theta E ridge.
You chase the point of the ridge. Which is right over...
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 07-Jul-21 10:47 AM
Looks like the models want IA not NE, and late
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 10:51 AM
Yeah, 12z says jokes on you.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 07-Jul-21 10:53 AM
Tho it looks like it wants storms in NE on Thursday
Also, looks like my neck of the woods may have a chance on Saturday
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 11:00 AM
Yeah 12z really likes Iowa. Too far out to make any mesoscale accident forecasts at this point
But there could be a pretty big area of risk given multiple outflows and meso lows at play
MJO out of phase. No help there. But there is a solid vort max at 250 heading in. But it's position may favor Iowa. We'll see. Nam does like to be too fast on these setups
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Jeff House (Chattanooga, TN) 07-Jul-21 11:16 AM
Definitely a chase day. Quick blob risk? (Like the new blob emoji) Sure, but there's a window for real action too. Morning MCS lays boundaries under adequate shear and impressive instability. (edited)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 04:58 PM
I hope 18z NAM is an outlier from a chaser perspective. It pretty much killed Friday entirely @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 05:17 PM
Ah it may be because NAM is too progressive. We will see.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 07-Jul-21 05:30 PM
I threw it out the window. This setup is just a novelty to me right now anyway. I won’t get too interested until tomorrow. But it sure would be nice to have a Friday night chase
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 05:45 PM
Never forecast a meso setup more than 48 hours out. I'll see what 00z says (edited)
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 06:00 PM
Waiting for the 00z and 12z. I’d have to leave tomorrow afternoon because I’m not making a 7 hour drive in 1 day
Still leaning no right now.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 07-Jul-21 06:06 PM
NAM wants Saturday now, lol
NAM is trying to get my hopes up so it can crush them brutally in 2 days
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 06:28 PM
Thursday thru Saturday could all go potentially
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 07-Jul-21 06:30 PM
I hate being at the tail end, cause it means a lot can happen to screw it up. Its kind of like all or nothing
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 07-Jul-21 06:30 PM
18z nam3km has the i80 corridor going apeshit after 7pm. But there is a ton of convection before that which should fire in the warm sector as well
It's a meso day. Chase the indexes not the cams.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 07-Jul-21 06:31 PM
NAM literally losses its mind with some of the SCP values in western NE. Almost 30 after dark, lol.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 06:57 PM
RAP say Iowa
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 07:05 PM
N MO/S Iowa
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 07:20 PM
To anyone who may be chasing on Friday, or is even considering it, Royce and I are going to hold a public call tonight forecasting the event together. We will probably be in one of the voice channels here so if you want to join us please feel free to do so! The call will start at around 0200z or 0230z (3 hours from now).
See you there!
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Peter Potvin (Pembroke, ON) ✱ 07-Jul-21 09:50 PM
Alrighty, I’ll pop in from bed 🙂
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 10:28 PM
Yep. 18z nam was an outlier. 0z is back on it.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 07-Jul-21 10:29 PM
Lieowa at it again y’all. See y’all in Lieowa
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 10:36 PM
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 07-Jul-21 10:54 PM
Would take
Mainly to avoid going to Iowa
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 07-Jul-21 11:29 PM
The analog on that first sounding is Hallam-Wilber and the other one with another big day for NE/IA/SD.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 12:49 AM
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 12:54 AM
6/13/01 seward tornado. classic
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 12:55 AM
Look at all of those analogs lmao
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6/13/01 seward tornado. classic
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 01:08 AM
Roanoke and Marion are two other analogs on that sounding.
Both F4 tornadoes.
Just as the Seward storm was.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 02:33 AM
SPC almost went 10sig already.
Also, some pretty strong wording on the discussion as well.
(For this type of event and this far out at least)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 04:19 AM
@StormCoker But it's July, Matt. It's Iowa's time to shine.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:10 AM
6z nam and nam3k say Lieowa but just east and south of Council Bluffs.
HRRR seems to agree and is trying to do the same but it slows down the system by a lot and is much more progressive with the impulse coming fron ND today, has that boundary clearing the WS mid day and the environment doesn’t recover until after sundown.
Or at least it doesn’t have this extent of thermodynamic conditions recovering.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:41 AM
I just realized 06z suite lines up exactly with where the Spc put their 5% for D2.
And those model runs released nearly two hours after they released the outlook.
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SPC almost went 10sig already.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 06:49 AM
It’s a typo, they meant 15% sig for wind/hail
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 07:09 AM
9z rap falling pretty much in line with 6z nam and nam3k. Lieowa E and SE of Council Bluffs.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 11:16 AM
Updated models say Iowa. 😞
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 08-Jul-21 11:21 AM
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Updated models say Iowa. 😞
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 08-Jul-21 11:36 AM
Go to Lieowa
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 11:43 AM
No
Will say, there’s a good chance this absolutely busts.
Especially with morning convection keeping cloud cover around.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 08-Jul-21 12:18 PM
Go
To
Lieowa
Actually Im gonna be honest, this setup does not impress me enough to go up to Iowa so im obviously sitting this one out.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 12:19 PM
It’s not a bad set up. Strong NW flow which is unusual in July.
I just see a cap bust potential, or elevated junk due to cloud cover.
And for me, I have to leave today to be there tomorrow, because I’m not making a 7+ hour drive to the target day of.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 08-Jul-21 12:20 PM
Yeah CAP is whats making me less interested
Id rather focus on Tropical season now. Unless there is a big event.
12Z 3KNAM looks messy and MCS material.
I’ll pass
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 12:23 PM
12z 3KM does have the best environment in front of it.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 08-Jul-21 12:26 PM
4000-5000 CAPE, 70+ Dews. Definitely unstable. Storms that stay discrete will have plenty to work with but again I doubt discrete mode lasts long.
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Mike Snyder (Seattle, WA) 08-Jul-21 12:42 PM
Only needs to last for about an hour
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 12:45 PM
Just saw some left splits on nam3km running parallel to the front, could be the gravy zone. Would be more isolated and less upscale. SW IA into Nebraska def.
Id rather bust on blue sky than have to run from a upscale garbay
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Id rather bust on blue sky than have to run from a upscale garbay
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 12:49 PM
If you are local, you definitely chase, no doubt. Those of us that have to travel, less certain. I’ll likely make a decision around 3, since it’s going to be 5 hours to KC for the night.
Unfortunately, this truly is a mesoscale day. You’re not going to know until the morning of, and what’s happening.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 01:08 PM
A few failure modes on the table but NAM sure is progging some of the more impressive NW flow soundings I've probably ever seen
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 01:32 PM
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Mike Snyder (Seattle, WA) 08-Jul-21 01:47 PM
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 08-Jul-21 01:53 PM
I see they deployed enhanced
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 02:09 PM
Well take a look at this new RAP run. Tomorrow is definitely looking like it could be one of the better NW flow events in a long time, just need to keep working out Fail modes.
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Jeff House (Chattanooga, TN) 08-Jul-21 02:21 PM
I figure SPC is not ready to place the 10% yet because we don’t know where the outflow boundary will settle. Barring a total rainout (not likely) maybe they drop the 10% at the 13Z or even 1630. Still won’t know at 06Z.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 02:25 PM
Yeah.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 02:37 PM
Find me a spot inside 10% tor and outside 15% sig wind and that's the target
Hatched yellow is my favor color
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 08-Jul-21 02:39 PM
I don't particularly like the storm motion off the boundary, basically due paralleling it
I like that one 3cape vort max up by like Sac City though
guess it will be a real time forecasting situation
looks like a day where either your really far south or really far north
and in the inbetween is a big question mark
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Jeff House (Chattanooga, TN) 08-Jul-21 02:45 PM
Along a warm front our outflow boundary is acceptable, even favorable, Don’t want it to cross. Quite the opposite of a dry line situation where we want perpendicular off the DL. Wish I could be there! (edited)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 03:04 PM
#teamwarmfront all day long on this set up.
Also team OFB.
Team WF and OFB, now that’s the sweet spot right there.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 08-Jul-21 04:00 PM
I hope it busts so I get an event I can chase Saturday. Yao Best of luck to all who chase tomorrow.
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I hope it busts so I get an event I can chase Saturday. Yao Best of luck to all who chase tomorrow.
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 08-Jul-21 04:59 PM
Saturday looks interesting for Southern IN/SW OH
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 08-Jul-21 04:59 PM
Its jumped around pretty much every NAM run so far
There is a warm front and a surface low. Tons of moisture. Its a question of where the cloud breaks are and what the mesoscale environment looks like. My prediction is that there will be a tornado somewhere in the Midwest on Saturday. prove me wrong
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:05 PM
What happens Saturday will depend a lot on what happens tomorrow.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 05:17 PM
Another call tonight, except @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) shows up on time 😉
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:26 PM
Agreed. I can be there.
Well I’m working on a forecast tonight.
Doing a discussion.
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Another call tonight, except @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) shows up on time 😉
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 05:38 PM
I'll try. Blame the wife for yesterday
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I'll try. Blame the wife for yesterday
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 05:49 PM
Always the wife’s fault
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:56 PM
Hey what if it was a good reason with the wife this time 😉🙃
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Always the wife’s fault
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 05:56 PM
Same time?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 05:57 PM
Maybe. I’ve debating leaving right now for KC or just leaving tomorrow morning, that way I can just not leave. Lol
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 06:01 PM
Lol
Leave for KC.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 06:01 PM
But I don’t want to chase Iowa
It never pans out
Because it’s Iowa.
It’s cursed.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 06:11 PM
Liowa. Chase the outflow in Nebraska
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 08-Jul-21 06:30 PM
Last time I chased Liowa was August of 2019. Beautiful blue skies until it went upscale and produced tornadoes in IL after dark.
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But I don’t want to chase Iowa
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 08-Jul-21 06:36 PM
Save the gas. If @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) is chasing it will be a blue sky bust.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 06:38 PM
Won’t be blue sky, rather cloudy day bust.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
Chase the indexes and the boundaries tomorrow
If meso plays out it will be a big day
But there is a good chance it will not.
If it does not, shellfire are awesome too.
It will be fun to be smacked by 80 mph winds and blinding rain lol.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 06:47 PM
The front moving SW doesn’t help, considering it usually undercuts the storm
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 06:55 PM
85/76. Chase it. This is right over omaha
I'll take good thermos over big hodos all day.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 07:36 PM
Yeah anything parallel to the river that stays discrete enough has anvery impressive environment to work with.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 07:46 PM
Lots of key statements made there.
But, I’ll bust with everyone else. See ya in Liowa tomorrow.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 08-Jul-21 07:53 PM
😂 same
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Mike Snyder (Seattle, WA) 08-Jul-21 08:15 PM
Joining the bust party
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 08:34 PM
See y’all there! Tomorrow could be a long day. Starting to get a bit worried at how close to home it is, but we will see.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 09:03 PM
Don’t worry, your house too, can see a grey sky bust.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 08-Jul-21 09:21 PM
oh my gosh rap's solution is hot
that is a big giant go here sign flashing near like Sac City
especially with that motion
right around the area
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 09:22 PM
Rap is going balls deep on tomorrow
I was gonna call off the chase until rap saved me
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 09:24 PM
Yeah
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 09:25 PM
waits for 00z runs
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 08-Jul-21 09:26 PM
This is another nearly in-range day that pops up when I have an appointment scheduled.
And the models trend away from HP blobs...
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 09:28 PM
Don’t worry, it will Liowa us (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 08-Jul-21 09:29 PM
Maybe if I bail on Lieowa again, I'll get a backyard consolation treat like last time.
Except it'll be in SW MN instead of SE MN.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 08-Jul-21 09:30 PM
Send it north 🙂 Backyard chase NC Iowa
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Send it north 🙂 Backyard chase NC Iowa
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 09:35 PM
Don’t worry, the crapvection that kills this event won’t miss you.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 09:38 PM
Tis better to have chased and busted than never to have chased at all
Was dreading a thread from a chaser on twitter who has 400+ chases recorded and a succy rate of about 10%
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 08-Jul-21 09:39 PM
That’s not bad.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 09:39 PM
Feels like I'm close to that rate, but not nearly as many chases
Im like 60 chases 15%
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 09:47 PM
Ah.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 08-Jul-21 09:54 PM
Depends on how you define success. As long as I find a Sizzler somewhere I feel like it’s been a hell of a trip.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 09:58 PM
@Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) joining the call now.
I’ll be there when you are ready.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 08-Jul-21 10:46 PM
brb
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 08-Jul-21 11:44 PM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 12:29 AM
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Mike Snyder (Seattle, WA) 09-Jul-21 02:20 AM
I'm looking forward to tomorrow
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 03:37 AM
HRRR goes supercell printer mode. Both elevated and surface based.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 04:04 AM
NAM has better storm motion and great thermos.
Dcape emote suitable to supercells and not storms going outflow dominant so fast, promoting longer discrete modes before upscale growth.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 09:53 AM
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 09:55 AM
I plan to stage in Osceola
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 09:58 AM
I'm Osceola right now haha. There's a firework tent in the walmart parking lot that I think is going to go airborne in these gusty winds
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 10:08 AM
Models show no clearing in Iowa today, which I struggle to believe (edited)
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 10:10 AM
SPC thinks it’s going to clear
“Strong daytime heating will commence”
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 10:18 AM
Yeah, pretty much means the CAMs aren't going to show convection because they don't clear. Keeps Des Moines at 80 or lower for temps
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 10:24 AM
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 09-Jul-21 10:25 AM
I plan on hanging around the house until things get going since I live in my target area. Today is one of these chase days were you throw models out the window. Follow mesoscale features and the clearing.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 10:25 AM
Im pleasantly surprised to see that hodo at OAX on the 12z soundings, time to check the Des Moines sounding-
OH WAIT, they don't do soundings 😦
IOWA 2
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 10:40 AM
Definitely a high chance of busting today
But that's typical for Iowa
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:14 AM
Impossible day ugh. That mcs stabilized much of Iowa.
Might have to audible and head west to get outta the downward motion
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Might have to audible and head west to get outta the downward motion
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 11:24 AM
You're not making it to the panhandle
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:25 AM
Nope by west I mean back into eastern Nebraska
There is a theta e ridge that has formed about 50 miles west of the Missouri
Western IA likely stable until after dark
Doing meso analysis now. Will post shortly
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 11:28 AM
Right now, was looking at Griswold
But, I'm packing up, getting a shower, and will decide then
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 11:30 AM
I decided to zig instead of zag, and am now in St. Jo for lunch. Finding some internet
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:37 AM
ok. at computer now. looking at the meso. this is a mess
2 clear theta e ridges, 1 in IA, 1 in central nebraska. with some theta-E advection fighting the outflow in NW MO
vad hodos at OAX still obscene
monster gravity waves in central SD moving in slowly from the NW. quite pretty but those arrive late for round 2
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:46 AM
Hmm
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:47 AM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:47 AM
Oh wow.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:47 AM
which channel to?
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:48 AM
Weather discussion
It’s not even 11 am and we have that kind of VAD.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:49 AM
they were supposed to be shirnking
but there is a 2nd warm front in nebraska now and winds in omaha are backed
15mph form the SE at my house
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:50 AM
Hmm
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:50 AM
also, there is a meso-low forecast to form around 00z just NW of omaha
rap/hrrr both show it on low level vorticity
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:51 AM
Yeah
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 11:51 AM
and there is the current boundary firing west of omaha right now. which was not supposed to exist
to the OT ranch or chaser radio?
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to the OT ranch or chaser radio?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 11:51 AM
Weather discussion.
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 12:06 PM
Clearing out nicely in Osceola. Getting hot enough that I'm looking for shade again. Wishing I went to western nebraska haha
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Lucas Munzlinger (Dittmer,MO) 09-Jul-21 12:20 PM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) What’s your thoughts for Southeast Missouri? Looks like it has some potential!
I’m listening to the discussion
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 12:21 PM
How do I listen in on the discussion? I'm bored in a walmart parking lot
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@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) What’s your thoughts for Southeast Missouri? Looks like it has some potential!
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 12:26 PM
SE MO? MCS wind risk /w flooding chances
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 12:38 PM
Spc extending risk back to far western Iowa
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 01:19 PM
helluva profile for Des Moines, its on the cool side of the boundary but still pretty nasty
especially if your looking for sick structure
can reallyyy see the boundary looking at it from theta-e
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 01:33 PM
will say out of everything ive seen so far
really don't like this
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 01:37 PM
Warned for half dollar hail north west of Des Moines. Watching the red dot migration lol
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 01:37 PM
yes
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 01:47 PM
that storm northwest of Des Moines starting to get the look to it
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 09-Jul-21 01:48 PM
The storm north west Des Moines is only a few miles from my home. Heading that way now to check it out. Looks like my target verified correctly.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 01:50 PM
lightning output increasing on the storm too Williard
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 09-Jul-21 02:12 PM
Tennis ball size hail has been reported out of the storm. It’s a beast.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 02:25 PM
Stable air that the storm in Des Moines could kill all of Iowa.
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Stable air that the storm in Des Moines could kill all of Iowa.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 02:30 PM
Where are you hanging out?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 02:37 PM
SW Iowa
Red oak, Clarinda somewhere in that area.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 02:44 PM
Same I’m just west of Red Oak. Gonna stay put
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 09-Jul-21 02:55 PM
Southwest Iowa will be my target once I’m done playing with his Hailer.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 02:56 PM
Believe that’s the warm front that’s moving north into red oak right now.
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 09-Jul-21 02:56 PM
some upper rotation.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 03:20 PM
ofb spotted
not exactly a good orientation but it will probably get the job done
at least rap's factoring it in now
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 03:44 PM
We are at a gas station in pacific junction right now.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 03:44 PM
Carson
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 04:12 PM
OFB slowing down. Storm is dead as expected.
SPC update:
UNCERTAINTY REMAINS REGARDING THE TIMING OF REDEVELOPMENT ACROSS IA/MO LATER THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING, BUT ANOTHER INTENSE CLUSTER IS EXPECTED TO EVENTUALLY DEVELOP AND MOVE SOUTHEASTWARD WITH TIME TONIGHT.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 04:18 PM
Eventually sometime in the future, Iowa will have its first tornado. Stay with news9, we’ll keep you advised.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 04:32 PM
If I had to predict, my guess is storms will fire on and behind the OFB, but will get undercut by it, thus no tornado threat, but hail and winds. Likely southern Iowa, before moving into northern Missouri. (edited)
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 04:34 PM
5.7 LLLR's from latest Omaha sounding
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 04:38 PM
not exactly the greatest there
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 04:40 PM
Yeah, that’s blue sky bust.
You need 101 degree temp to bust that.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 04:49 PM
Where we going to get the BUST steak dinner @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE)/ @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL)?
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 04:56 PM
Busting in liowa. Joy. Round the bend in south bend, Nebraska
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 04:57 PM
Leave it to the Lieowa area to have 6k surface based cape and nothing.
DMX says storms will fire, just after 00z. (edited)
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 05:04 PM
We are gonna sit here and wait...for a bit. Might move around a little
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:06 PM
I’m sitting near Nebraska city.
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 09-Jul-21 05:14 PM
@Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) you were right about Lieowa.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:16 PM
Lieowa never fails. There will be storms late tonight, so Iowa will see rain.
Right now, I’m working a tan.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 05:19 PM
maybe initiation in southeast Nebraska near Beatrice and north of Manhattan KS?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:20 PM
Anything in that area is elevated.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 05:20 PM
ah
ok
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 09-Jul-21 05:24 PM
I say it’s steak time
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 05:26 PM
This was such a good warmup for the cold front shitshow at home tomorrow.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:29 PM
I will say, farther east near Des Moines, the 700s should be a lot cooler than Omaha, but I don’t see forcing (edited)
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 09-Jul-21 05:30 PM
Not the only ones guys. Lots of others out there.
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Not the only ones guys. Lots of others out there.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:30 PM
Definitely. Some have already packed and left. Lots still waiting.
Storms will fire, it just might be 10pm
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 05:31 PM
I’m just loitering. If you never go, you’ll never see
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 09-Jul-21 05:31 PM
yep, man this is like year of the bust. No offense guys. I feel ya.
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hopefully you get a great Light and wind show later on?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:33 PM
New storms east of Des Moines on the other gradient. Still cool side.
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 09-Jul-21 05:50 PM
I’m glad I caught that supercell near home earlier this afternoon because I’m thinking there’s not gonna be much here along the outflow boundary until after dark. I’m tempted to go home take a nap and do lightning ops after dark.
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yep, man this is like year of the bust. No offense guys. I feel ya.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 09-Jul-21 05:51 PM
Truth right there! Its been a frustrating year for me. But I still have ended up with some great footage/time lapses. Its just all been just a few chases, and even those didn't feel always like total successes either.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 05:51 PM
We are closely watching the outflow boundary to the west of Des Moines for new thunderstorm development over the next few hours. If t-storms develop, severe weather is likely with hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes all possible. Stay tuned if you have outdoor plans. #iawx
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 09-Jul-21 05:54 PM
I'm up in northern Iowa. Getting some fishing done. Great temps, mid sun. Great CU to my west. It's going to to be like pulling a magic rabbit out of a hat....backyard play if anyoldman (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 09-Jul-21 05:58 PM
If only that gravity wave would help kick some parcels up. Of course, seeing that gravity wave in the warm sector makes me think of a cap that refuses to break. (edited)
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Drew Terril (Yukon, OK) 09-Jul-21 06:02 PM
I'm picking up in Eau Claire. Hoping they have me rolling in a couple hours or so, but looks like I'll be keeping my head on a swivel tonight. Not so much concerned about the tor threat (I can drive around those) as I am wind in the big rig.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 06:19 PM
yikes
western nebraska's doing just fine though
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 09-Jul-21 06:32 PM
Guess Arizona was the correct target area today Yao troll
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 06:33 PM
Just as we all predicted.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 07:20 PM
Y’all still out there? @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL)
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 09-Jul-21 07:28 PM
are you kidding me
850 temps are STILL being advected
that is a nasty cap bust right there
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 07:33 PM
Yeah we are headed north from Villisca closer to the convergence zone along the interstate. I see an impulse coming from northeast Nebraska on satellite along that zone that I’m watching closely. Royce had car issues and had to drop back home so I am now with @Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO)
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 07:34 PM
My disappointment is growing lol
I’m near winterset Iowa watching towers go up and die
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 07:36 PM
🧢
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 07:36 PM
Radiator leak. Burning antifreeze. Grounded for 2 weeks until I can get into shop
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 07:37 PM
They aren’t even talking about a watch. I’m sleeping in my own bed tonight boys
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 07:37 PM
The funny part is. The cap is gone. There is just zero forcinf
The warm front washed out and the shortwave dove into Wyoming instead
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 07:44 PM
Tornado warning for Nebraska.
As we stated this morning, panhandle was likely the best shot today. (edited)
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 09-Jul-21 07:45 PM
Yao 5
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 07:45 PM
I am surprised they didn’t drop it to 2% at the last update.
Or just flipped it with the west target.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 07:49 PM
They are still waiting for that ofb to go lol.
We are just going to keep being patient.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 07:52 PM
To me though, that’s very conditional, which the SPC usually lowers everything on, since it’s so conditional.
That’s why I thought they’d lower it, due to uncertainty in storms.
FYI, I went back to my hotel, about 2 hours ago or so. Lol
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 07:57 PM
Lol
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:02 PM
Didn’t want to miss those free drink ticket I get for a clear sky. Plus, likely taking a nap to wake up to the line tonight to get some lightning photos.
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 08:03 PM
You aren’t going back to OKC? David and Mike are getting antsy about tomorrow 😂
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:05 PM
Not tonight. I’ll head that way tomorrow
Probably will chase in northern ok
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FYI, I went back to my hotel, about 2 hours ago or so. Lol
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 08:07 PM
Are you in KC?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:07 PM
Yeah.
Main goal was southern Iowa today, to back to KC for the night, then head to OKC tomorrow, with maybe a pit stop in southern Ks/ northern OK, before getting home
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 08:09 PM
My backyard in Omaha. (Patio is warm when sun is on it)
Confirmed. I have radiator leak. Air bubbles making it overheat
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:13 PM
Oof, radiator bust on a blue sky bust. Terrible combo
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 08:13 PM
I’m just hoofing it back to Joplin tonight and will see what we have in the morning.
Sorry about the rain radiator. That blows, literally
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 08:21 PM
That sucks.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 09-Jul-21 08:26 PM
On the plus side. Wife brought me home rocky mountain oysters from the steakhouse
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 08:27 PM
Tornado Warned Storm crossing Alliance, Nebraska minutes ago. @NWSCheyenne #wxtwitter #newx https://t.co/dwn2KC3sra
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Drew Terril (Yukon, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:34 PM
Leaving Eau Claire in the big rig now. We'll see what I see in Lieowa after dark
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 09-Jul-21 08:55 PM
See ya soon if you take HWY 18 IOWA
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 08:56 PM
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See ya soon if you take HWY 18 IOWA
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Drew Terril (Yukon, OK) 09-Jul-21 09:06 PM
Nope. 94 to 35 and down
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 09-Jul-21 09:07 PM
Glad I stayed home. Actually overslept, but I was kinda hyped after last night's discussion.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 09:27 PM
storms starting to fire in south central Iowa
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 09:30 PM
Get after it guys, you just have around half an hour of ambient light left 😂
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 09:32 PM
I don't have enough connection to upload, pic but the cell near osceola iowa has a nice base, but looks outflow-y
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I don't have enough connection to upload, pic but the cell near osceola iowa has a nice base, but looks outflow-y
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 09:33 PM
It’s on the cool side of the boundary.
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 09:34 PM
Yep. Pretty tho
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 09:34 PM
I couldn’t believe how bad my data was up there. Another reason I decided to cut my losses
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 09-Jul-21 09:35 PM
I have a bonded router with 3 carrier, so i typically don't have issues, but I'm only getting a weak ATT signal where i'm sitting to timelapse right now. kind of irritating
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 09:35 PM
I’m headed back out. At least I can get lightning.
Another 1.5 hour drive here we go
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 09-Jul-21 09:51 PM
That SW Iowa cellular sucks. Lack of towers in the Amish areas
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 09-Jul-21 10:18 PM
Finally a warning for that cell
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 09-Jul-21 10:20 PM
With @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) eating cheap steaks at Red Robin after a blue sky bust. I hate Iowa now! LOL (edited)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 10:20 PM
Lol Red Robin is awesome.
We may still head out to get the western stuff.
Some lightning at least.
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 09-Jul-21 10:23 PM
Yeah in Nebraska, not Iowa.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 11:11 PM
Lieowa
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 11:12 PM
The storms overnight are going to be racing south to southeast roughly 50-70 MPH
especially in Nebraska
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 09-Jul-21 11:18 PM
This storm is dying.
Lightning is cool, although not photogenic.
Mainly because there’s a down burst of water blocking all the strikes.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 09-Jul-21 11:21 PM
Extremely dangerous storm currently in the northwest Nebraska Panhandle.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 09-Jul-21 11:43 PM
About to pass through Lincoln. Chasing the MCS bois.
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Lucas Munzlinger (Dittmer,MO) 10-Jul-21 12:43 AM
Looking twards St.Louis from Dittmer, Missouri
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Grant Leighty (Kansas City, MO) 10-Jul-21 10:47 AM
Omaha was hit hard last night from the storms.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 11-Jul-21 01:06 PM
Based on some of the power line damage to our south (sheared off mid pole) there is evidence of possible meso vorts/spinups that occured. Radar supported
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 11-Jul-21 01:12 PM
I wouldn't be surprised given the high CAPE and turbulence of two cold pools colliding over the city.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 11-Jul-21 01:21 PM
The oddball 96mph gust with 63 sustained at OMA eppley might have been in a spin up since it was about 20mph higher than all over area obs
That zone of spin appeared to move SSW on radar into eastern Papillion where I live and where much of the worst damage was
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 11-Jul-21 01:22 PM
Have they ever confirmed it. Last I saw, they thought it was an error reading
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 11-Jul-21 01:23 PM
They did confirm it to be real. Ties all time record
Eppley is down by the river and usually get shielded by the bad straight lines. We had a 110 and 130 recorded west side of town in the last 20 years
Whoever decided to plant maple trees over the entire city was an idiot
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The oddball 96mph gust with 63 sustained at OMA eppley might have been in a spin up since it was about 20mph higher than all over area obs
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 11-Jul-21 02:39 PM
I actually thought it was a microburst at the time.
I do remember seeing a broad meso in the line on radar. It was on the eastern half somewhere.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 11-Jul-21 03:03 PM
There was a very stout Rear inflow jet. A couple of inbound eddies formed on the front flank, typical signal of a brief LEWP tor. However they are very hard to confirm, in particular at night
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