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EVENT ARCHIVE / 07-14-2021_mn_wi_sd_ia
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 12-Jul-21 12:56 PM
By your command.
IOWA 3
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:03 PM
Ugh. Models are converging on Lieowa again. >.<
But there's still hope for southern MN action.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:08 PM
oh yea, thats what im banking on
Im just curious to see how ongoing convection gets factored, MN really doesn't like to do good with morning convection
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:19 PM
That's my target for now.
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Im just curious to see how ongoing convection gets factored, MN really doesn't like to do good with morning convection
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 12-Jul-21 02:20 PM
Ihad 2 seperate occassions last year where morning convection laid down a nice fat BL, tornados went crazy on those. Dare I say... Dalton...
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:26 PM
I am concerned about the low-level lapse rates and shear in MN, though. NAM 3k says Iowa will have better of both of those values, but it is Iowa.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 12-Jul-21 02:27 PM
MN is due. But, where morning convection is concerned, the setups have trended southwards this year.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 12-Jul-21 02:29 PM
900-850 mb temps look quite warm in Iowa too.
I’m also worried about shear vector orientation. This is a WF play hands down.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:31 PM
Yeah. Storm motions seems good along the WF at least ahead of the line NAM 3k predicts.
Actually, don't you want storms to run along the warm front?
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 12-Jul-21 02:33 PM
Yes, along or just to the north.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 02:36 PM
Then the storm motions aren't good. NAM 3k wants to peel right movers off of the front. However, should be at least a small window of tor potential with any right movers. This is looking like brief QLCS tor event.
Maybe embedded supers. Royce has more experience with this than me.
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 12-Jul-21 03:14 PM
The obvious thought would be a raging MCS that goes linear fast. For some reason, though, it seems like the WF somewhere might do something too
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 03:29 PM
Yeah, it seems like this goes linear quickly and is a raging MCS.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 03:56 PM
I'm back baby! Wednesday looks interesting
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 12-Jul-21 04:04 PM
phat f in the chat for the lapse rates
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:32 PM
overnight MCS followed by a RARE WSW mid-level flow with high end instaiblity? yes plz
just got all my internet and power back so gonna hav eto dive into this, but it looks like it has potential if storm motions are OK. sadly my car is KO'ed and i leave town thursday
rap says...storm motions are too close to the boundary. training supers /w flooding likely wednseday evening. you'll have to get a right turning rogue in order to get a tor probably
there is a small area in NW IA where you might get cap break in the warm sector. that's your best bet. trailing front into nebraska will have better motions but inflow is from the SW so it favors upscale event
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 12-Jul-21 04:39 PM
NAM 3K is just fake news all the way around
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 12-Jul-21 04:39 PM
but I will say spooky hour by hour sounding right over head of me
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there is a small area in NW IA where you might get cap break in the warm sector. that's your best bet. trailing front into nebraska will have better motions but inflow is from the SW so it favors upscale event
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 04:40 PM
there is a small area in NW IA where you might get cap break in the warm sector.that's your best bet.
🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:40 PM
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 04:40 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:40 PM
this could be very very bad for omaha.....
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 04:40 PM
betting on Iowa aye?
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:41 PM
indexes arent' that good. cap is questionable. this is the type of day that will LIOWA and make us hate ourselves
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 04:41 PM
Sorry, let me get back to serious in this discussion thread. Don’t bet that the cap breaks in Iowa. Low to mid levels are warm.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:42 PM
yeah, the front is the sure bet, but the front in MN will be an HP trainfest. and the front in nebraska will be veered, so GL on tors
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 12-Jul-21 04:42 PM
Likely will be later evening for Iowa, and by then, a nice MCS with some nice strong winds and maybe a few QLCSs
Yep, definitely a wind threat, but could be a big wind threat.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 04:43 PM
nam3km does convect some messy supers in central IA much like last friday
but likely very late
earlier runs had a shortwave pushing in from the WSW /w a negative tilt into NW IA. now it's got a crashing cold front
NAM forecasting a TON of mixing in NW IA, could cap it all out. the front down into KS has colder 700's. coudl see some isoalted pops down the line
so, if you want to chase wednesday. either find yourself chasing a grungy HP warm front rider south of MSP. or roll the bones and get ready to bust when you follow HRRR and chase NW IA. AGAIN
euro has likely derecho crossing all of nebraska wednesday
derecho 2
I SAID IT, THERE YA HAPPY
euro forecasting widespread severe event from NE into IA/MN/WI
low level shear
EURO favors widespread severe event with several rounds of QLCS / bowing segments
this is similar to what GFS had forecasted as well. only the NAM / cams have been more progressive /w a tight ball low into sioux city TP area
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 05:07 PM
I feel like I should target Owatonna or Rochester Wednesday.
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 12-Jul-21 05:26 PM
yeah im not liking how progressive everything seems to be. I just really am thinking derecho
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 12-Jul-21 06:05 PM
Twin Cities AFD.
Like I said before, if anyone decides to chase it please let me know. I’m 100% free.
I’m up to chase anything atp. I’m young and now coming off of three tornado busts in a row. I’ll be happy to see a damn shelf cloud rn lol. All we could see was lightning on Friday.
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 12-Jul-21 06:09 PM
im chasing but im chasing thursday too and then spending the weekend at my sisters in Mich lol
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 12-Jul-21 06:38 PM
I'm chasing, but I don't see myself going all the way to NE for this.
I wouldn't mind driving to Omaha because I like long trips to new places, but it's potentially a lot of money to get there.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 09:59 PM
Placement of the low will be key
It likely will sneak behind the mcs
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 12-Jul-21 10:11 PM
wake low
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 12-Jul-21 10:56 PM
Rap usually isn't big on stp. So this is a concern
Storm motions will be training along the front, but rap wants some isolated supers in the warm sector. Possibly mesoscale accident
HRRR supports the supercell mode. Nam3km wants 4 squall lines
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 13-Jul-21 12:04 AM
Bullseye right over me. Unfortunately I don't have my primary car, so I don't think I can play the good game
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 01:47 AM
target is on the north side of the bullseye. along the MN/IA border
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 09:35 AM
I really wish I could be there, I have not chased MN at all this year. Feels weird. Do I pull out of one commitment, skip work for 2 days, and drive home for a chase?
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I really wish I could be there, I have not chased MN at all this year. Feels weird. Do I pull out of one commitment, skip work for 2 days, and drive home for a chase?
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 13-Jul-21 09:41 AM
For wind?
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 09:42 AM
If its for wind count me out. But I am not sure this won't be a big supercell day. The lapse rates won't be conducive for wind. But the shear profile supports rotation strongly.
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Josh Zitko(St Louis, MO) 13-Jul-21 10:02 AM
There will always be another chase
this 1
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 10:09 AM
I think this setup may trend into WI. Not sure if thats better or worse than IA...
NAM 3k caps it out on the latest run. I don't buy that one bit
Too far east to cap bust
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Bullseye right over me. Unfortunately I don't have my primary car, so I don't think I can play the good game
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 10:22 AM
Don't worry about hail. Thats the beauty of MN/N IA chases. Hail usually not a concern. Not enough instability/lapse rates. Which is nice, because you need to get closer due to higher precipitation storm modes.
One of the offices (La Crosse maybe?) Was talking about quarters max for hail.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 11:48 AM
Dream the impossible dream
The other cams.have some embedded supercells in the squall line from OMA to Rochester
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 13-Jul-21 12:01 PM
Lieowa baiting everyone in
this 3
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The other cams.have some embedded supercells in the squall line from OMA to Rochester
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 13-Jul-21 12:38 PM
Are they embedded supercells or just elevated storms.
Haven’t had time to look, but know previously CAMs have shown a lot is elevated.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 01:24 PM
We will see how the CAMs behave. This is around the timeframe they start downtrending usually. If I chase, i would spend the night tonight in Chi suburbs. So, I would be very down to link up with anyone who may be coming from IL to chase this.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 13-Jul-21 01:26 PM
what a disconnect between the models
2/5 actually have something
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 01:30 PM
The hodos are out of this world. its just a question of if we can get prefrontal initiation following the lead MCS. My gut tells me Yes. Could also play the cold front, initial cells will likely be strong supercells, before amalgamating into a line.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 01:31 PM
CAMs at least agree on there being two rounds of storms. It's just timing they disagree on.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 01:33 PM
The placement seems to be locking in, which is a good sign. It will be a very busy day for the NWS offices in the area, thats for sure
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 13-Jul-21 01:35 PM
So is there a reason that every hotel in Des Moines is sold out or $150-200+ a night?!? Between that and the need to get a few more items done here, I don't think I am going to try and make this mcsfest. Come on derecho
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 01:37 PM
Broyles makes no mention of tornados in the 1730 outlook. Interesting We will see what the CAMs say
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 13-Jul-21 01:58 PM
Time to go tent camping. Or bed in the suv Yao (edited)
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So is there a reason that every hotel in Des Moines is sold out or $150-200+ a night?!? Between that and the need to get a few more items done here, I don't think I am going to try and make this mcsfest. Come on derecho
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 13-Jul-21 02:06 PM
Everyone in Omaha is still without power?
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 13-Jul-21 02:07 PM
oh. I guess maybe. DSM and KC both are expensive and mostly sold out for tonight.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 02:26 PM
At this moment I really wish I had my license and a car already. I want to chase this πŸ˜‚
I should be taking my test sometime next week or the week after. Im scheduling my appointment tomorrow.
Most people in Omaha have power by now.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:28 PM
Reed's video was very enlightening. Its all going to come down to the timing of that shortwave impulse. If its as currently modeled, (ie early) it will reinforce the lead MCS, suppressing the warm front. BUT if it can slow just a couple hours, then we could be looking at a classic S MN Tornado Outbreak. Just waiting on those 18z CAM runs. (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:29 PM
Tried to find analogs of this last night in the Violent Tornado Webpage.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 13-Jul-21 02:30 PM
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:32 PM
The SARS system on the forecast soundings is finding sig tor analogs an most of the soundings. A lot of them from Dixie. All we need is one prefrontal supercell riding that WF/OFB for an hour or 2 to get us some great tornados. Just need one.
As an aside, is there a way to access that system? To see what the analogs actually are? I am curious
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:37 PM
I have no idea.
I guess you could read the matches in the soundings and go look them up somewhere.
Like the violent tornado webpage.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:40 PM
This guy for instance. (Pulled from RAP for IA tomorrow
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:42 PM
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:43 PM
Can't see it, I dont have pivitol pro
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:44 PM
You need Pivotal Pro to share soundings?
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:44 PM
Apparently
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:45 PM
One minute then.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:48 PM
Yea, those guys
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:49 PM
Yeah. Sig matches from Birmingham, AL and Bowling Green, KY soundings.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 02:50 PM
The one I showed above was from Louisville NWS. For S IN
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 02:55 PM
NSSL has 1 pre-frontal tornado cell NW of DMX tomorrow. HRRR has zero supers
ARW has a QLCS that produces tors in W WI
NAM3km agress with ARW. FV3 gonna FV3
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 02:59 PM
Dang, the only sounding I could find in the VTW from those three SARS matching from those two soundings leads to a broken JPEG.
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 13-Jul-21 03:01 PM
AWR is what I've been thinking a few days. Especially when the NAM was being progressive sat and sun
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 03:35 PM
Well, Latest HRRR run is a downtrend. Here we go again.
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Well, Latest HRRR run is a downtrend. Here we go again.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 03:43 PM
I mean 18Z does allow the Shortwave impulse to eject a bit slower so it isn't just screaming through to maintain that initial MCS
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 03:44 PM
That is true, I noticed that on the RAP. So there is just enough hope to string us along until the next run
NAM is coming in now
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 03:45 PM
Looks like 18Z HRRR also has that mcs a bit weaker that moves through in the early morning too because that shortwave is a bit slower
Don't want that shortwave to be too progressive, it'd just amp up that MCS
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 03:47 PM
Yes. But its not allowing the environment to recover behind it. It still holds the WF way down in IA. We need that WF to surge, the sky to clear and the LLLR to climb so we get something prefrontal to ride that WF. (edited)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 03:47 PM
At least it isn't getting 700mb cooked lol
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Yes. But its not allowing the environment to recover behind it. It still holds the WF way down in IA. We need that WF to surge, the sky to clear and the LLLR to climb so we get something prefrontal to ride that WF. (edited)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 03:48 PM
Looks like WF tries to lift northward to straddle the border but then CF comes crashing through
However the eastern extent of the WF does manage to get its way into WI
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 03:48 PM
Its the surface CINH thats killing it rn.
HRRR is hinting at some sort of triple point play in SE MN tomorrow
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 03:49 PM
I mean the chance of tornadoes is definitely there, just not sure how it's gonna play out with the morning MCS etc.
this 2
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 04:03 PM
Pretty moist but HRRR likes the SFC low in southern MN
Just gotta see how fast it recovers up there, HRRR allows southern MN to do so you get like this 3cape bullseye right along the SFC low and near the WF
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 04:06 PM
NAM run has the lead MCS be weak, allows the WF to push almost up to the border by 00z, interesting
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 04:11 PM
Even if the tornado risk don't pan out, still gonna get a real solid MCS
NAM's been a bit all over the place with the WF but seems to finally be trying to hone on straddling it closer to the border
Still got some discrepancies, gonna be a day of thing most likely
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 04:21 PM
This NAM 3km run is weird. It looks like it tries to create an MCV in the wake of the lead MCS, keeps the WF locked in S IA. Does not generate cells in between the 2 MCS until like 23 z, in W WI
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 13-Jul-21 04:22 PM
Good luck chasing around the MS River in SW WI/NE IA. It's awful
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 04:26 PM
Can we all take a minute and appreciate the total lunacy of what the 3km is trying to show for W IA. It creates an MCS, then breaks it apart into a supercell fest, then reforms the MCS. LMAO (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 13-Jul-21 04:27 PM
I was paying attention to Iowa. Getting frustrated that each run wants to push the warm front further south.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 04:33 PM
Enjoy your grungy was front with embedded super structure
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 04:43 PM
Extremely detailed forecast discussion out of the Des Moines office. Someone put a lot of effort into this.
Too long to copy paste, lol
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 13-Jul-21 05:04 PM
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 06:07 PM
Well, I am going to spend the night in Chicagoland, shave a couple hours off my drive tomorrow, while also keeping the option open of not chasing and working a half day.
IOWA 🎣 me in
Latest RAP does NOT show that strong shortwave impulse with the leading MCS. πŸ‘€
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Latest RAP does NOT show that strong shortwave impulse with the leading MCS. πŸ‘€
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 06:15 PM
I haven't looked at it yet, but wouldn't that mean that the impulse slowed down and is now more favorable for supercells along the wf or is it killing the impulse altogether?
this 2
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 06:15 PM
Waiting for the rest of the run to come in, but yes, hence the πŸ‘€
SLowing down and favorable, but we will see as the run comesin
WF already pushing to Central IA by 19z...reedooh
71 dews into S MN by 20z!
W Central IA, Check out that Sickle!
Strong shortwave impulse now showing, coming in clutch at 00z! Oh Boy!!!
Time to stop reading the models and get packed
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 06:40 PM
Okay RAP is weird. It has surface based supercellular profiles in Nebraska. Weird. (edited)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 06:41 PM
Shoves it all down in IA
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 06:58 PM
We will see once the 00z CAMs come back into range, but looks like it sharply weakened the first MCS, allowing the WF to surge, just in time for the shortwave impulse to overshoot the top of the loaded gun warm sector. 🀞 🀞 🀞
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 13-Jul-21 07:26 PM
Yeah, I get storms at 8am, noon, and the front at 7pm. See what garbage/excitementshitstorm tomorrow turns into
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 07:36 PM
Rap is favoring mesoscale accident setup
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 13-Jul-21 07:44 PM
Good luck tomorrow everyone. I can’t drive 10 hours for the hopes of an accident, and I have a team at camp to take care of.
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Good luck tomorrow everyone. I can’t drive 10 hours for the hopes of an accident, and I have a team at camp to take care of.
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Diego Garcia (DeKalb, IL - NIU) 13-Jul-21 07:51 PM
Im considering driving north to my friends and teaming up with him. Tbd rn
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Rap is favoring mesoscale accident setup
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 13-Jul-21 07:53 PM
Just in time for massive disappointment tomorrow morning.
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Austin | (Grand Forks, ND) 13-Jul-21 09:18 PM
Consider me pessimistic but this screams mcs wind event with maybe an embedded supercell
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 13-Jul-21 09:19 PM
In that region, there’s reason to be pessimistic
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 09:48 PM
are we going to do a call again tonight to forecast for tomorrow?
even if most of us are not going to end up chasing it?
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 09:54 PM
im ready when ya'll are
which cams had scatter storms north of MSP this afternoon?
holy jesus 00z rap
00z rap has training supers from NE Neb into NW IA with intense backed winds. if that confirms it would be chase of the year for the midwest
HRRR agreeing with RAP. chase NE Neb
front goes near stationary and winds back near the shortwave low in NE
this. lots of this
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 10:21 PM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) I am ready for the call. You can find me in the weather discussion VC
If that is the case then I have to be there somehow lol.
for what you wrote above (edited)
I don't like that there is no 3cape here.
lapse rates are MUCH better.
other than 0-3
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 13-Jul-21 10:29 PM
Did yall already vc?
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 13-Jul-21 10:29 PM
I am in it currently
Cody had to drop out for a moment
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 10:30 PM
@Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) in a little bit you are going to see everyone pop into the call at once lol
they pulled me into James' interview for his chasing experiences.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 10:31 PM
N IA on nam. nam is still more progressive on the shortwave
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 10:32 PM
Is it slower than it was before though?"
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 10:33 PM
nam is a hair slower than previous runs. but HRRR and RAP are now at a snail
HRRR has a classic stationary setup in NE NEB NW IA.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 13-Jul-21 10:44 PM
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 13-Jul-21 11:14 PM
youch
NAM makes it sting hard for me
darn
and rap farther to the sw along the cf
big yikes from me
advecting temps for 9 hours straight
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 13-Jul-21 11:37 PM
but 500's looking quite cool. smells like upscale /w some seroius Dcape
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 13-Jul-21 11:49 PM
Can't VC since it's late but I'll hop in and listen
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 12:14 AM
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 12:20 AM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 12:20 AM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 12:48 AM
I am going to attempt to be awake at around 8:30 cst tomorrow morning just in case someone is playing closer to nebraska.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 12:56 AM
Gonna be up to see SPC's forecast and discussion
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:19 AM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) I am looking at mesoanalysis right now and I am not too sure about mcs maintenance tonight. What impact would this have on tomorrow.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:19 AM
im not worried, that LLJ is sick kiciing up right now
HRRR has it just getting stronger and heading due east
weaker MCS would move slower, but also leave less subsidence
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:20 AM
idk. I am not confident. I am looking at thermos
not great for mcs maintenance
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:20 AM
May just run off the LLJ for a bit
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:21 AM
fair
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:21 AM
I've seen it happen before where even with meh thermos LLJ just keeps it going
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:21 AM
but the best thermos would make it run more south than forecasted\
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:21 AM
Although do think this is definitely gonna be weaker moving through than what CAM's showed unless it randomly ramps up at like 4 A.M.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:21 AM
yeah
gradient would have it ride farther south than anticipated
trying to think of the implications that this would have on tomorrow
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:22 AM
i think you'll get plenty of feeders diwn into nebraska, but the actual squall should be furhter north
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:22 AM
because this is affecting my forecast for tomorrow.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:23 AM
one think i am starting to worry about, is that if that low is really jumping and those LLJ's are really this strong. 850's could bleach the entire warm sector tomorrow
not just temps. but mix it out
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:23 AM
ah
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:23 AM
if those 850s' mix down we'll lose our 70's tds and be boned
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:23 AM
yeah I am worrying about that too
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:24 AM
we really NEED this MCS to keep chugging and drop a ton of rain over the target area
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:24 AM
yeah
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:26 AM
a strong southboudn out flow will also hold those 850s in check
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:27 AM
700mb temps aren't cooking this time around but not a fan of how warm the 850s are
Still feel in the dark on this event and it's day of
Just throw the dice and see what you land on I guess at this point
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:29 AM
SD storms might stick around if they can tap into that MUCAPE assuming they're elevated.
Maybe the NE storms will try to as well if the LLJ keeps up.
But everything will be elevated.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:31 AM
an elevated MCS is a happy MCS
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SD storms might stick around if they can tap into that MUCAPE assuming they're elevated.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:32 AM
Probs at this point, assuming boundary layer is stable due to nocturnal cooling
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:33 AM
wow, HRRR just has this MCS going full on derecho and plowing east. quite strong
there are embedded supercell hailers in the feeder bands
check out the new stuff in the sandhills
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Probs at this point, assuming boundary layer is stable due to nocturnal cooling
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:35 AM
Yeah, given the CINH there now and the boundary layer cycle going into nocturnal stratified mode, I figured that the storms would be or go elevated.
Sheesh.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:36 AM
north platte. left mover supers are booking in that area. but once the ESE moving squall arrives...big hodos
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:38 AM
HRRR pretty much full blown Derecho at this point
Bigly MCS bows out and just tears its way into WI
Probs got a mean RIJ on it too
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:39 AM
interestingly enough nam3k is identical
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:39 AM
NAMNEST shows exact same thing
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:39 AM
this MCS is getting HUGE boys. HUGE
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:40 AM
mcs is definitely fuurther south than hrrr is depicting
tho
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:40 AM
3500 cape upstream feeding it, tons of juice
presure falls in central nebraska. def thinking this low gonna stay pretty far south
HRRR really likes that 1 lone supercell over iowa city
well. this massive upscale growth tells me this 500mb shortwave is no joke. and we've got much cooler temps aloft than expected
"large scale ascent"
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 01:55 AM
arw liking northern iowa
after the derecho
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:57 AM
that outflow trailing behind the MCS could be critical. if it clears fast enough to get rebound that is
SPC's SREF is a full 6 hours behind real life for derecho placement. so the derecho is 6 hours ahead of schedule on some models
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:58 AM
Starting to get some more organized upscale growth up on the SD side now
Extending down into NE
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:59 AM
its my fault. i said the D-word
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:59 AM
New D1 out, remains ENH
IT'S UNCERTAIN HOW MUCH CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK THE 00Z NAM INCORPORATES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SURFACE LOW THAT TRACKS FROM SOUTH-CENTRAL NE INTO SOUTHEAST MN BY LATE AFTERNOON. HOWEVER, IF A SHARP BAROCLINIC ZONE EVOLVES, A CORRIDOR OF GREATER INSTABILITY/SHEAR WILL EXIST ACROSS PORTIONS OF IA INTO SOUTHERN WI SUCH THAT MORE SUBSTANTIAL, ORGANIZED CONVECTION IS POSSIBLE. IF THE EARLY-DAY MCS IS DOMINANT THEN THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR ORGANIZED SEVERE WILL BE ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF THE LARGER COMPLEX. THIS ACTIVITY WILL SPREAD TOWARD LAKE MI BY LATE AFTERNOON. TRAILING FLANK OF THE MCS SHOULD EXTEND SOUTHWEST ACROSS IA WHERE FRONTAL INTERACTION MAY ENCOURAGE ORGANIZED SEVERE. THE MAIN SEVERE THREAT WITH THE MCS SHOULD BE DAMAGING WINDS, ALTHOUGH HAIL MAY ALSO BE NOTED WITH CONVECTION THAT EVOLVES WITHIN THE MORE BUOYANT AIR MASS LATER IN THE DAY. IF SUPERCELLS CAN DEVELOP THERE IS ALSO SOME THREAT FOR TORNADOES GIVEN THE FORECAST SHEAR; HOWEVER, MUCH UNCERTAINTY EXISTS REGARDING THE MCS AND POTENTIAL STORM MODE.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:00 AM
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:00 AM
Lol Darrow
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:01 AM
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:04 AM
par for the course
likely to change once the MCS gets into the target zone. give it time
they are leaning heavy on NAM and the SREF, SREF is already 6 hours off of on the MCS and NAM looks unrealistic vs other cams
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:09 AM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) Cody mentioned what you said on the dot on those cooler 500mb temps (edited)
Oops wrong thing
Okay I'm way too tired
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:14 AM
SPC seems to think minimal TOR threat along the IA/NE border.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:19 AM
probably due to the warmer 850s and high td depressions on NAM. the other models were favoring a convergence zone /w higher tor probs
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 08:21 AM
GOOD MORNING SPORTS FANS!!!
I am not buying the lack of tornado risk. Classic SPC bias against upper midwest tornado days. I have seen it before many times. ther are 5%'s, then ther are 5%'s
Looks like eastern IA, per the HRRR. RAP says I 80, from 18z - 00z, treacking east
Des Moines office not too keen on the tornados
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 09:31 AM
All right. I am targeting Eastern Iowa, Waterloo area. Meeting up with my old chase partner from MN. Looks like multiple multiple rounds of broken supercells. Hopefully the winds are backed enough and the surface CAPE can make its way north before the storms amalgamate. But good news, I do not need to go to NE and my commute will be much shorter home.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 09:49 AM
Seems like this morning MCS progressed faster than the 06 Z models predicted (with the exception of WRF-ARW).
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 10:35 AM
Eastern Iowa is the play. Best support. The NW IA play has been reduced by the surface low falling back into KS
Gonna have to hope for something to form on the rebound in N/E ia
The surface low sitting in ks and missing the shortwave totally screwed alot of the forecast up
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 10:41 AM
Yeah, and I feel those persistent morning showers are going to spoil the west target area.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 10:45 AM
They might be the saving grace imo. Will keep 850s cool. Prevent over mixing. Provide lower lcls. Frontal support and 2k cape already in pkace
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 10:45 AM
I was concerned it could keep sfc temps down.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 10:49 AM
Closer to the MCV that could be an issues. Cape could be neutered further north
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 11:15 AM
I wonder if you can trust the 12Zs now since none of them caught the convection in SD broadening out.
Also, the C IA squall line popped earlier than the CAMs predicted.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 11:18 AM
some good conditions waiting around in southern Iowa
lots of falling area's in central iowa (edited)
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 11:38 AM
Dont sleep on Nebraska and NW IA yet. The low is pulling into Nebraska now. Winds are backing again
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 11:51 AM
It's still early. Watching for a clearing to the west.
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Drake Anthony (Peoria, IL) 14-Jul-21 12:15 PM
Im kiiinda considering throwing all my gear in my car and heading to east IOWA
I'm going to see what the SPC says in the next update
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 12:21 PM
Southwest WI might have a surprise today.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 12:49 PM
Looks kind've gross ngl
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 01:02 PM
Still cloudy in central Iowa, but I’ve got 79/72 here in Madrid. So the surface obs are there.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 01:08 PM
Yeah, only 70/70 here, but I see more wet muck to the west. Don't know if the clearing will get here in time.
HRRR has it blowing up right over me, then moves east. Latest NAM agreed (edited)
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:11 PM
profile at des moines is slowly recovering
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:11 PM
It's juicy as hell here in Omaha. Stratus deck. Blue sky bust risk is gone
Follow that zone as it moves east
500mb vort max over Sioux falls area
Surface low rapidly shifting along the front. Now just west of omaha
SCP north of Omaha to 8. Advection to the NE
Also watch the wake zone in e IA near cedar rapids
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 01:25 PM
Looking at latest observations, destabilization is definitely already underway and looks to be destabilizing nicely. (edited)
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 01:28 PM
Follow the moisture convergence and win a prize.
87/71 at my house in Omaha area. Front has passed north and it's drying
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 01:50 PM
0-3 km SRH has really increased over Western NW Iowa. Up to 450 m2-s2
I definitely believe the NW Iowa is the play. Although won’t be too shocked if something pops up in East IA also.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:53 PM
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:54 PM
Wish this was farther north. As it stands, my money's a little too tight to go to Iowa. >.<
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Vince Waelti (Monroe, WI) 14-Jul-21 01:54 PM
I'm team east iowa today. Heading toward waterloo
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:56 PM
Yeah, I was going to target NE Iowa.
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Wish this was farther north. As it stands, my money's a little too tight to go to Iowa. >.<
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 01:56 PM
That sucks. I am also not able to chase today. My future chase partner is dealing with some health related problems and receiving treatment. Nothing life threatening thank goodness.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:57 PM
Oof. Hope they get better soon. At least it's not life-threatening.
But, yeah, unexpected expense at the beginning of the month killed my funds.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 01:58 PM
Yeah, it should be a quick treatment and then we should be go to go for future events.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 01:58 PM
That's good.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 01:59 PM
For those interested in a meetup. I am hanging at the Mc Donalds in S Waterloo, near Kimball Ave
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 01:59 PM
Profiles really starting to show some solid Rebound out of Des Moines
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 02:00 PM
Looking better and better now.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 02:00 PM
HRRR is dropping a broken line of strong sups just s of Waterloo around 21z! Getting pumped!
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:01 PM
Better low-level lapse rates also starting to advect northward along
Pretty solid rebound now, got some strong instability starting to make its way northward from Southern IA
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:01 PM
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:08 PM
The good news is that's it's raining here, so some drought relief.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:11 PM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) If you had to gauge with the tornado threat would be with today's event, what would you say?
Looks like southern half of IA is destablizing as we speak (edited)
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:14 PM
man I wish Mesoanalysis had postive and negative omega bars map
so you can see subsidence
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:15 PM
It has surface convergence.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:15 PM
I know its basically the same thing but that more simplified
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:15 PM
It's 'Divergence and Vorticity' under Surface.
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:15 PM
it looks surprisingly good for right now (edited)
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it looks surprisingly good for right now (edited)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:16 PM
Yeah doesn't look too bad
Lapse rates look like they're gonna be the best in southern IA though
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:17 PM
Outflow in southern Nebraska firing slowly. Watch this for upscale later
Trailing cold front in NW IA into Nebraska has very clear convective attempts going. Base ref. Shows isolated super trys
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 02:18 PM
Profiles continue to rebound at DMX, looks pretty solid (edited)
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:20 PM
Really high dew points in S IA.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:21 PM
Just NW of dmx is the key area. Watch the areas with highest flux.
Area n of Omaha likely capped but if breaks watch out. Dryline like setup south of the TP
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:22 PM
okay HRRR lol
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 02:22 PM
Osceola Airport is reporting 85/73 right now
And if that HRRR comes true, I wouldn’t have to go very far for a chase
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:23 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar. 90/72 with west winds here
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 02:24 PM
Still no sun in the Des Moines area, but still 79/72
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I'd buy that for a dollar. 90/72 with west winds here
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:27 PM
sfc obs tell me its in the low 80s here
not 90
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:29 PM
Yeah. ASOSs around Omaha show a south wind with low to mid 80s.
South wind is good for the right advections, though.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 02:38 PM
Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Des Moines IA 114 PM https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/wx/afos/p.php?pil=AFDDMX&e=202107141814
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:40 PM
ASOS are in fields with wet grass. Add 5 for city temps or more
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 02:42 PM
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:42 PM
Omaha ASOS is in a field near the airport 3 miles from town next to a river. Literally the coolest spot in the metro. Stupid ASOS rules
That warm front / outflow pushing north quite visible on the meso. TP setup in NW IA...sounds familiar @Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:45 PM
hmmmmm let me guess
the setup that we blue sky busted?
however this one doesn't look like a blue sky bust in the slightest
Storm relative flow should be quite strong, and the environment will support ingestion of mainly streamwise vorticity with initial convection. This is particularly concentrated between the Hwy. 30 and Hwy. 20 corridors, and are based on RAP and HRRR soundings sampled near Fort Dodge. Recent HRRR runs also are showing stronger UH tracks across this area, which makes sense with the low- level hodograph structure seen in soundings. Soundings and hodographs sampled closer to the Des Moines metro after 20z also have decent turning, but SRH values for both mean wind moving storms and right moving storms are not nearly as high. But, should a supercell develop, it will continue to move into a supportive environment. Supercells if they develop will be capable of all hazards. The discrete supercell threat will not be long lived through. As 00z approaches, there continues to be a strong signal for a robust LLJ development ahead of the initiating boundary over the buoyant warm sector. Any discrete development will congeal as this kicks in. The severe threat will continue though, as the kinematic fields will still be able to foster the development of a RIJ and could provide a bowing convective mode to the complex. Low- level lapse rates may still be steep, especially as a complex moves into eastern and southeastern Iowa where the air has destabilized and remained mostly unpolluted from morning convection. This will continue the threat for damaging wind swathes. With low-level lapse rates remaining steep, the surface may not quickly become cut-off from the complex. Further, 0-3 km bulk shear may reach as high as 50 kts as the LLJ strengthens. In this setup, it will not be hard achieve 30 kt line-normal shear to the complex, which could lead to the development of mesovortices along the leading edge, and the dreaded nighttime QLCS tornado threat. Depending on the how the cold pool dynamics would play out, balance with the ambient environment may be achieved through eastern portions of the forecast area. The one factor that may end a QLCS tornado threat though is if a convective cluster releases a strong outflow and it rapidly propagates ahead of the system, cutting off surface based inflow. But, will still be looking at a damaging wind threat through the evening.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 02:54 PM
Meanwhile, a potential flash flooding threat is developing in the Twin Cities.
If that new line of storms pivots into downtown, it will flood. Flash flood guidance there is only 1.25"/hr. (edited)
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 02:55 PM
Environment in #iawx is recovering and instability is rising. Expect discrete supercell initiation initially along outflow boundaries with a scattered #tornado threat before evolving into a bowing #mcs later this evening. Stay weather aware today! #wxtwitter
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 02:59 PM
HRRR going big just west of DMX by 21z. Big (edited)
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 03:15 PM
1st cell near Whiting (edited)
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:17 PM
Whiting, right on the Nebraska line. Looks supercell promising
Goddamn it Cody!
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 03:21 PM
yup
cells going up in West Iowa now.
ET is up to 30kft on that Whitling, IA cell.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:22 PM
SCP spikes ahead of the cells with good inflow. These could go severe or tor very fast
Yes that says 79/79
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 03:23 PM
another cell near Oldebolt, IA is also observing supercell characteristics. (edited)
ET is only 20 kft though.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:24 PM
Both firing lines are prefrontal so low risk of cold pool line outs for a while
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Goddamn it Cody!
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:26 PM
ah just confirmation that I am getting better at this haha.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 03:26 PM
STP is up to 2 in Central IA.
VTP is up to 5 lol
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:27 PM
So I am taking this as a win right now. Let us just hope that nothing crazy happens
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:27 PM
Vort max rapidly deepening over Sioux city
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:27 PM
my issue is whether or not these initiated a little too early for them to have the best parameters available to them.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:27 PM
VTP is pretty to look at but I've never legitimately even used it
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:28 PM
3500 cape no cin. CU field just exploded
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:28 PM
So far none of these have really gotten going, still would say give them 15-30 minutes before we see which ones decide to put on a show
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:28 PM
EHI is skyrocketing
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:28 PM
They are firing 50 miles from the top parameters. It's all gonna be advection based today
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:29 PM
God I wish I was chasing this after three busts in a row but hey at least im tracking an event nearby and not in like the dakotas where this really should be this time of year.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:29 PM
Do not sleep on Nebraska. The cu field is front fast and storms could be deviant movers due to backside inflows
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:29 PM
gradients are key today for surea
winds are now backed across much of iowa.
This is definitely trending towards what the RAP had last night at 3z.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:31 PM
Tornado watch inbound probs within the next 15-30 minutes
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:31 PM
agreed
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:31 PM
Cells are starting as kidney beans and the. Splitting. They are not showing alot of organization yet
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:32 PM
yeah. They still need some time. This also means that it probably won't be instant upscale growth.
not until later at least.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 03:32 PM
Several gravity waves visible NW of Omaha moving se into the target area
Lots of latent vorticity around. Even the showers in Nebraska are trying to spin despite marginal SRH
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:33 PM
Theta E advection is strong, these storms are firing right along the edge of the ridge. Gradients, gradients, gradients.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:34 PM
Gradients on everything lol
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:34 PM
Yeah
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:35 PM
Okay that's pretty cute we take
TOA issued
A tornado watch has been issued for parts of Iowa until 9 PM CDT
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:35 PM
These storms have plenty of juice at the surface and at the mid levels to work with too. \
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 03:36 PM
50/20 probs
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:39 PM
these storms are riding along a ridge where dcape is not too high, further supporting a more discrete mode for a while.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 03:51 PM
10% tornado risk too
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:53 PM
yep
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 03:53 PM
oh wow.
They actually upgraded.
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 03:54 PM
* insert Joker "and here we go gif" *
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 03:54 PM
I knew that that was going to happen. I called it last night.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 03:54 PM
RIP to the weather weenies who kept talking about a sig hatch.
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 03:55 PM
Imagine what will happen when Lieowa strikes again
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 03:57 PM
Not seeing much in the way of spin on those storms back by Denison and Carroll at the moment
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:01 PM
quite a bit of SRH but the updraft speeds are pretty weak. lapse rates are poo right now
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 04:01 PM
as @Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) has often said, some of his best chases have come on 10non days lol
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:01 PM
yeah 10 non hatched is my favorite setup
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:01 PM
no but, i do see that cell north of Denison taking on a kidney bean shape.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 04:01 PM
Good luck out there y'all.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:02 PM
LLLR are garbage right now. I would think that may change soon. (edited)
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:03 PM
the SREF really has the next 1-4 hours as the main go zone. things fall off at 00z
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:03 PM
Kind've surprised at the 10 non hatched
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 04:04 PM
Yeah, I'm just east of the line of showers. Still only 73 degrees. I'm happy to be in the 10%, but it looks like I will have to drive more east or south later.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:04 PM
looking at the 0-3km cape for the latest HRRR vs last nights. it's night and day. big time difference
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:05 PM
Spinning shower near Wall Lake.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:05 PM
cell firing just NE Of omaha
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 04:08 PM
Lapse rates suck
Liowa gonna Liowa
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:09 PM
Denison cell now up to 32kft on ET
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 04:10 PM
Wow, it's not that intense on reflectivity either.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 04:11 PM
no lightning in anything
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:11 PM
New cell going up near Boxholm, IA.
Already got a kidney bean feature. I believe its also closer to the highest Parameters.
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 04:13 PM
Yeah that's basically my backyard aka Boone County
Today's my one day off this week and I've really debated on whether to sit at home today or go out
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:13 PM
3CAPE πŸ™
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:14 PM
I'm concerned the forcing isn't going to be there like predicted.
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 04:15 PM
Boxholm cell is already up to 19 kft on ET, which is impressive for how quick it went up
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I'm concerned the forcing isn't going to be there like predicted.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 04:20 PM
The vortmax is continuously deepening right now so we will have to see what happens.
scps are skyrocketing
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Brennen Round (Chatfield, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:22 PM
thats better
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 04:22 PM
Cheat Code lads
Play the cheat code
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The vortmax is continuously deepening right now so we will have to see what happens.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:23 PM
I was looking at 500 mb vorts, and most of the vort maxes were over in MN sliding NE.
If that vort max from SD strengthens a bit, though, then that could be your trigger for NW IA.
LOL 500 mb vort max went over my house. I could even see very broad rotation in the precip.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 04:26 PM
everything around me is 20k. But looks like junk...IE barely sprinkles
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 04:27 PM
Lapse rates
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:27 PM
Cell near auburn's slowly growing.
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Quinn Douglas (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 04:27 PM
was just about to point that out
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:28 PM
Yeah. If you don't get forcing in there, low-level lapse rates are going to bust NW IA.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:28 PM
Gonna be a bit of a yikes from me
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:29 PM
Yeah. 5.5 C/km is barely moist adiabatic.
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Matthew Harding (Wichita, KS) 14-Jul-21 04:30 PM
Good luck getting a tube in Iowa today. Those lapse rates leave a lot to be desired.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:30 PM
Hoping some PVA gets over that area, but that's only going to help so much.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:30 PM
Doubt there's enough forcing down in like south IA to get anything there really
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:31 PM
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 04:32 PM
Cell near Auburn is at 40 kft now. (edited)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:32 PM
not the end of the world by any means, but still needs a bit of love
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 04:32 PM
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:33 PM
there are showers rapidly moving through E neb. they are starting to tower. cluster style. could be the start of the killing MCS for later
cells in S nebraska starting to anvil. post frontal but TD gaps are still within surface based range. there is a 2nd low in the KS/NE area that is deepneing and winds are flipping between backed/veered along the stationaryf ront
action firing in N KS even...keep an eye on for upscale given the complex setup
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:36 PM
Still got the cheat code on the side 😳
Still got like 23kt of 0-1km off the Des Moines VWP
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 04:37 PM
NW IA
Go
Now
East
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:38 PM
Man oh man that cell near Auburn, IA
ET increased very quick.
40+ kft now
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 04:38 PM
That’s it
That’s the play
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:38 PM
Storm organizing near Auburn Iowa #iawx
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 04:38 PM
GO @Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:38 PM
There's your base on it lol
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:39 PM
yeah
I would get west if I was east of I-35
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:39 PM
Has been really the only storm that has begun to mature, and it's just there by itself so pretty much big arrow pointing to "Chase this" on it
Also in the 3CAPE bullseye so cheat code is in play
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:40 PM
yup. that's been the target all morning. a prefrontal in that zone. get it boys
its got a weak meso forming.. GO GO GO
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:41 PM
If I was chasing today, most likely I would of picked Fort Dodge, IA to start.
That cell is in driving range lol
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:42 PM
stuff furhter west near the front lacks the inflow for tors. but you could get some landspouts even further SW down here
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 04:42 PM
drifting west to fort dodge
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:42 PM
Just gonna wait and see what it decides to do
Tops have definitely punched up pretty nicely
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 14-Jul-21 04:43 PM
Going out of the STP bullseye though. I will be on the road, so text me if something important happens
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:43 PM
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 04:43 PM
Lake City Iowa❀️
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:43 PM
its moving due east. It should be moving towards that bullseye.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:44 PM
today would be the day IA produces because i can't chase
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:44 PM
another cell near Boxholm seems to be getting a couplet also.
oh its getting a hail core too
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:45 PM
best warm sector we've seen in IA / E Neb in 2 years
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 04:45 PM
Of course this is what happens when royce and i are not out there.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:46 PM
Im not out there either so have fun πŸ™‚
We might have our first tornadic cell of the day shortly. Broad but impressive couplet now. Dayton, IA.
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Of course this is what happens when royce and i are not out there.
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 04:49 PM
Writes down β€œvisit Iowa and Nebraska when Cody and Royce can’t chase, avoid when they are free”
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:49 PM
Worried about that storm just off to the west that's about to run right into it
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:51 PM
Liowa whenever I can't chase it
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:53 PM
Latest scan on the Auburn cell.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:53 PM
That thing is ready to go
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:55 PM
Its got the look. Tornado imminent.
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That thing is ready to go
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 04:55 PM
Lol, Liowa gonna Lieowa with storms that can’t even reach severe thunderstorm requirements, but potentially tornado warned.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:56 PM
Tor warning
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:56 PM
nice meso. nice hail core. not HP
THE PERFECT CELL TO CHASE IN IA...
we got any chasers near lake city?
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 04:57 PM
Uh oh
This thing is gonna pass over Lake City, IA.
Mike Marz is in Lake City.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 04:58 PM
in my experience in nebraska / ia. classic tornado cells that produce tornadoes early in their lifecycles will drop a tor before they hail. the hail takes too long to fall and the meso spins up before the hail reaches fall size
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 04:58 PM
Stratford too wow
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:00 PM
Oh its gotta donut hole now.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:00 PM
lots of shrimps trying to form on radar
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 05:02 PM
Multivortex tornado in lake city Iowa damage thrown in air 3:56 car @NWSDesMoines
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:03 PM
F-ing liowa
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:03 PM
Tornado reported over Lake City, IA just as I feared.
Stratford Cell needs a warning.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:05 PM
3-4 other cells on DMX radar getting the look. could be severe very soon
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:05 PM
And it is warned.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:05 PM
Oops repost
Spotr 1 miles SSE of STRATFORD, IA @ 21:06 UTC Rotating Wall Cloud>-Rapidly rotating wall cloud over Stratford.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:06 PM
Stratford cell is about to do it.
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Imagine what will happen when Lieowa strikes again
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 05:07 PM
Guess I'm eating my words now Yao
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:07 PM
lots of shrimps forming. LOTS. each one could drop a tor. high vorticity setup similar to a mini-supercell outbreak occuring
the vort max and surface low both came in stronger than forecast and they are aligned perfect for a mini-super setup. gonna get real busy real fast
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 05:08 PM
Tornado east of Lake City IA currently @NWSDesMoines #iawx
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:11 PM
wow that is a big one. This is escalating fast.
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Jacob Punch (Kansas City) 14-Jul-21 05:12 PM
spotter reported large tornado near stratford
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:12 PM
in before hatch upgrade
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 05:12 PM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:12 PM
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:13 PM
Another TOR near Stratford.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:14 PM
Freddy Mckinney about to get a TOG on livestream
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 05:14 PM
Awful tornado directly impacted Lake City, #iawx …. I have some nice footage but I think I almost died…. Fucking thing sucked the phone out of my hand
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:15 PM
fred's condensing fast
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 05:15 PM
Well I'm regretting not going to IA today.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:15 PM
Freddy has a tornado OTG
WOW right infront of him
Got some good motion to it
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:16 PM
on the ground
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:16 PM
huge cc on the lake city cell
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:16 PM
Multi-vortex
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:17 PM
TOG stratfpr
stratford
they are within 50 yards of it
or they were for a moment.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:18 PM
scott peak with a 2nd angle on it
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Damn, if only this was Friday
Thanks Lieowa
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:18 PM
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:19 PM
bit of debris fallout on the lake city cell
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 05:19 PM
All my homies hate Iowa
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:19 PM
DISCUSSION...A supercell thunderstorm in Calhoun County has recently had a tornado reported with it. A newer storm to the east in Hamilton County has also shown supercell structure with a weak TDS signature on the 0.5 degree KDMX 2109Z scan. These storms are interacting favorably with outflow from a convective complex that moved through the region earlier today. This favorable mesoscale environment will continue to support supercell storms with tornadic potential this afternoon.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:20 PM
fred with amazing rope tor
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:21 PM
Yep yep yep
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:21 PM
drill bit
just went through a farmstead
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:22 PM
Drillbit now
Violent motion wow
Huge #Tornado went through Lake City, IA this afternoon. 7/14/21 #iawx @NWSDesMoines @StormHour @JYuhasKSTP @SimonStormRider @ReedTimmerAccu
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:22 PM
helical vortices
that motion is insane
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:23 PM
missed the farm, good. roping now
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:23 PM
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:24 PM
His stuff is out of focus but wow
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:24 PM
3 warnings up now
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:25 PM
Twinsies
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:28 PM
large tornado dropping
multi-vortex
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:30 PM
Just had twin tornadoes north of Stanhope Iowa
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:31 PM
tornado is large
large cone otg
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:33 PM
Absolutely violent motion
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:40 PM
@Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) we are missing the tornado event of the year for the midest and its literally 100 miles from us. I am livid rn lol. Damn radiator leak
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:40 PM
fucking trip!
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 05:41 PM
Lol
These storms are absolutely trucking along
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:42 PM
event of the year....liowa
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:44 PM
My flight home is delayed, I won’t get back until Thursday; so that means tomorrow will oververify like CRAZY. You are all welcome
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 05:49 PM
we are getting tons of shirmps froming in nebraska. not a good sign
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things SHOULD be elevated back here. but hail / landspouts possible
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:52 PM
Watch near Story City
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 05:57 PM
We might get a big one here shortly near Radcliffe, IA.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 05:59 PM
starting to get very ugly
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 05:59 PM
keep telling people Story City, I can't be the only one seeing what that's about to do
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:00 PM
big hail likely very close to Allison IA on radar
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 06:01 PM
Everything has a small bit of rotation today. Even the tiny πŸ’© nobody gives a second look
Cute beaver 🦫?
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:08 PM
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:09 PM
small storm west of Des Moines already with a hook
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Click to see attachment πŸ–ΌοΈ
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:10 PM
Where is this?
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:10 PM
Parkersburg
Also Storycity about to produce live
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:11 PM
Yeah it looks like its about to produce.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:11 PM
Lake City Iowa tornado. Tornado got big and strong just past the city. This was how it was thru town. #iawx #tornado https://t.co/tJuyHGG5qQ
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 06:13 PM
damage already being reported.
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:14 PM
holy cow
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 06:15 PM
poor animals
SPOILER
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:15 PM
At 505 PM CDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado was located near Roland, or 14 miles north of Nevada, moving northeast at 35 mph. HAZARD...Tornado. SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation. This storm continues to exhibit strong rotation and a wall cloud.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 06:15 PM
(if needed to delete lmk and I will)
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:16 PM
Those chickens didn't stand a chance
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:16 PM
New cell NW of Des Moines, IA already intensifying. 60 DBZ on reflectivity.
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poor animals
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:16 PM
Are those…
My god
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:17 PM
Mason City has a supercell too right along the WF although low-level thermos there are more lackluster
NEW VIDEO Some of the first scenes coming in of damage from tornadoes in Central Iowa on Wednesday. Hope everyone is okay, stay safe everyone! #iawx https://t.co/eNayTTU24b
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Norman Smith (Racine, OH) 14-Jul-21 06:18 PM
RIP Chickens
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Tornado In progress NOW near Shell Rock #iawx
BIG MULTI VORTEX https://cbs2iowa.com/watch
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Violent motion in the Mesocyclone
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:23 PM
Waverly, IA in the direct path of that tornado.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:23 PM
Increasing positive CG's
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:26 PM
81/71 at Waterloo with south southeast wind to 23 MPH
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:28 PM
New tornado
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 06:31 PM
This could be the next large tornado of the day. Large, deep spectrum width drop and a potential large cc drop. This is moving away from the radar so we are going to have to rely on streams and ground truth,
velocity is kicking up a lot on this cell.
there could be a lot of radar contamination here so not sure just how accurate this is.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:33 PM
@NWSDesMoines taken about 5:20p 1 mile north of Sac City, IA.
Cute
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 06:34 PM
the cells that just popped over omaha now moving straight east into the prime zone. des moines could be at risk later
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:34 PM
New TOR Charles City on the WF
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 06:34 PM
sac city was not warned and was already passed the wind shift, so even the cold front could have tors on it i guess
surprised no landspouts in nebraska yet
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 06:35 PM
Does this mean that the FV3 verified? XD
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 06:36 PM
fv3 was close. but i'd say HRRR verified
fv3 had real deal supers. these are a mix of mini supers, like HRRR had
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:37 PM
that is a strong couplet on radar very close to Waverly
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:38 PM
New stovepipe tornado! Still near WAVERLY!!!
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Matthew Gaylor (OKC, OK) 14-Jul-21 06:39 PM
Appears to be growing upscale
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:41 PM
dmxchat 2021/07/14 6:38 PM iembot 2 S Waverly [Bremer Co, IA] TRAINED SPOTTER reports TORNADO at 5:35 PM CDT -- TORNADO ON THE GROUND. DEBRIS BEING LOFTED INTO THE AIR.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:42 PM
Tornado #3 near Waverly @MetCrewChasers @spann @ReedTimmerAccu @SWMN_SportsGuy
Jewell Center Iowa tornado today. Wow! Look at it suck! Drill bit tornado!
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Massive yikes from me Chief
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:46 PM
arxchat 2021/07/14 6:45 PM iembot 2 S Nora Springs [Floyd Co, IA] TRAINED SPOTTER reports TORNADO at 5:40 PM CDT --
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 06:48 PM
Anyone noticing the cell west of Cedar Falls, IA?
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:49 PM
Rockwell needs a warning
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Jim Martin (Findlay, Ohio) 14-Jul-21 06:49 PM
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:50 PM
Can we not
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 06:51 PM
Also worried about Cedar Falls.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 06:51 PM
Another tornado near Shell Rock, Iowa #iawx
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 14-Jul-21 07:12 PM
I dun goofed
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 07:14 PM
Im not doubting Iowa again
today overperformed and its still not done yet.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 07:15 PM
I played too far north. However I'm here for a family visit, so storms are just a bonus
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 07:18 PM
I would like to point out how well that assorted wharfs and RAP had a handle on this from 21z on last night. We saw the trend and spent like three hours discussing that trend πŸ˜†
this 3
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 07:52 PM
To be honest I think this is less of a MA and more of a synoptic event, especially when we had models picking up on it last night.
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 08:03 PM
Not liking the looks of things 2 mi. sW of Dysart, Iowa now. #PS407 #iawx
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 14-Jul-21 08:47 PM
This has "lock it in" written all over it.
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This has "lock it in" written all over it.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 14-Jul-21 08:48 PM
Yeah this isn’t good for areas east of Cedar Rapids or whoever is in the path of these storms. Substantial tornado threat continues.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 09:00 PM
Still very turbulent near Maxwell/Collins. Keeps making me doubletake
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 09:04 PM
This is a certified bro momento
Yeah these things have been on the uptrend as they approach towards the DVN area, seems airmass there hasn't yet been overturned, also that Hodograph is pretty impressive
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Willard (Madrid, IA) 14-Jul-21 09:23 PM
Guess Iowa has tornadoes after all.
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 14-Jul-21 09:24 PM
Hey, they pulled the trigger on the Maxwell storm
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 09:27 PM
Bruh. I got chase blue balls
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Cameron (KMXX | GA) 14-Jul-21 09:30 PM
Here is a video grab (touched up a bit) of the Lake City, #iawx tornado as it really started to plant, - the RFD was wrapping big time north-westerlies into my face. You can see sub vorts right there in the field ripping up branches. view is from the west of the tor looking east
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Bruh. I got chase blue balls
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Ben Holcomb (Norman OK) 14-Jul-21 10:03 PM
Same 😳
Hoping tomorrow over performs
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Bruh. I got chase blue balls
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 14-Jul-21 10:11 PM
you and me both man
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you and me both man
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 14-Jul-21 11:13 PM
Me three.
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Royce Sheibal (Papillion,NE) 14-Jul-21 11:59 PM
and this is why you chase liowa
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 15-Jul-21 12:23 AM
i hate ia
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 15-Jul-21 12:40 AM
It's stealing all of Minnesota's tornadoes this year.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 15-Jul-21 01:22 AM
Yeah it is this year
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 15-Jul-21 02:26 AM
A cone #tornado intensifies after moving through Lake City, IA! 21:06z, 3 mi E of town on 175. @NWSDesMoines @NWStornado #iawx https://t.co/dQ41rp3YN0
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Jacob Melton (Owosso, MI) 15-Jul-21 01:26 PM
Looks like Lieowa verified beautifully
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Looks like Lieowa verified beautifully
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 15-Jul-21 01:58 PM
Wow that is basically perfect verification.
Wondering what survey results will be.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 15-Jul-21 02:08 PM
Yesterday was wild! I had a feeling it was going to be a big day, and I was right. We were right in between the cells at the start, we chose to chase the cell farther west that looked like it had the better chance of going classic. Unfortunately, the cluster of minis that we left was the group that went on to produce the tornados of the day. But we got to see rope out for the first time, and a beautiful elephant trunk funnel near Gowrie IA. Then we fell behind and made some poor routing choices, so we had to abandon the cells to the north. Were not able to get the the southern cells in time. A comedy of positioning errors. But, we got something, and my initial target area choice was spot on! So a win for my forecasting.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 15-Jul-21 02:11 PM
Yeah I had a feeling a few days in advance of the event that it had potential to be a good setup. Better than last week. Even with the last minute uncertainties along with a late Morning MCS, 7-14-21 definitely overperformed. . My armchair chase verified also. I was thinking the Fort Dodge, IA area or North IA and I would of caught either the Lake City tor or the Strafford tor. If only I was actually there in person.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 15-Jul-21 02:13 PM
I just wish I had made better positioning decisions. The storm motions were a lot faster than I was expecting.
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 15-Jul-21 02:21 PM
Working on exporting a quick video. I got back to Lafayette at quarter to 4 am this morning, lol. Totally worth it, even despite my bad positioning. That environment is by far the best I have ever chased!
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I am not buying the lack of tornado risk. Classic SPC bias against upper midwest tornado days. I have seen it before many times. ther are 5%'s, then ther are 5%'s
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Drake Anthony (Peoria, IL) 15-Jul-21 02:28 PM
this aged well. πŸ˜‚ i was wondering how your chase went
even if i had chased yesterday, it's unlikely I would have seen the photogenic tornadoes early on in the outbreak
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 15-Jul-21 02:32 PM
I missed the best ones unfortunatly. One of the rare times the tail end charlie was NOT the play of the day
I put my footage up in the videos channel
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Nathan M (Neosho, Mo) 15-Jul-21 02:43 PM
I’ve had my team at camp the last couple days with no internet. What did I miss??πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Actually I got caught up this afternoon. Congrats to all those that scored. I like for you Midwest guys to get a score now and then. Just save some for Ok and Ks
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 15-Jul-21 02:48 PM
This was the Midwest tornado setup of the year. This was the one to be on if you are from the area. Glad I made the choice to chase. Very last minute.
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Kyle (Wayzata, MN) 15-Jul-21 03:59 PM
I was going to go NE IA, maybe Waterloo myself, but I feel like I would have rushed east for the Lake City storm and missed the stuff forming in NE IA despite the HRRR saying "stay put and wait." Those lapse rates were worrying.
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Cody D. (Lincoln, NE - UNL) 15-Jul-21 04:02 PM
I made a forecast late the night before.... and it verified pretty much perfectly.
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Tristan White (Hartselle, AL) 15-Jul-21 07:11 PM
Lake City, IA tornado
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TJ (Houston/Galveston TX) 15-Jul-21 09:37 PM
More fun with pictures:Yao (edited)
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Joey Prom (Lafayette, IN) 16-Jul-21 09:55 AM
I really hope they find something for the Gowrie tornado. I really don't want to be skunked for this trip. That was likely my only tornado on the day
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Glen Heinz (Greenville, SC) 17-Jul-21 10:13 PM
Tornado! Jewell, Iowa tornado from yesterday. At different points the tornado went from a fully condensed cone, to a small drill bit corn munching tornado and finally monster tree eater. #iawx #tornado @NWSDesMoines
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Multi-vortex and wedge tornado that impacted #LakeCity, #Iowa yesterday, 7/14/21. #iawx @NWSDesMoines @StormHour https://t.co/fuWLPaTUX6
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